Short Discussions

Indian man (1): [Hindi]

Indian man (2): [Hindi] [Hindi conversation]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi] Then why we have to make another tank?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: They said that the... If we want water in that bathroom, then we have to have our own water hookup there.

Prabhupāda: Who said?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: The electric man who came there, the man from the electricity department. Their point was that there's more parties using the water than just ourselves. So if we do not... There has to be some way of determining who's using what water supply.

Prabhupāda: Talk with the same man.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: The man came today from electric department.

Indian man (1): Vadepal[?] contractor.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Hah. He said that this one Kalachand Goswami, he is living there, and he is using water. And we are living there, and we're using water. So how to determine who should pay for what water? There must be two meters.

Indian man (1): Extra meter wanted.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Hah, one meter for the water he uses and electricity he uses, and one meter for the water and electricity we use.

Indian man (1): Electricity to your restaurant? Direct to [indistinct]? [Hindi]

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: But who pays Kalachand's electricity?

Indian man (1): Kalachanjī's śiṣya, Madana Mohana Goswami.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Thikk hai. So how to judge how much electricity is used by us and how much electricity is being used or taken by the Kalachand Goswami? How to know how much he is using, how much we are using? If there is only one meter...

Indian man (2): [Hindi]

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Now there's no meter. There's only one meter for whole thing. For whole site there's only one meter, water meter. But there are two parties. One is the Kalachand, and one we are.

Indian man (1): So you install meter in your room?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Ha, ha. Yes. They want to put extra meter in the room.

Indian man (2): We have to have extra meter.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: To determine that we should only...

Indian man (1): [Hindi]

Jayapatākā: [Hindi or Bengali]

[Hindi conversation with scattered English about water and electricity meters]

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: So he's saying that 'cause...

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Jayapatākā's saying... He's translating what they were talking, that there's already a meter for electricity. This new meter is proposed simply for water. But the cost of water is so cheap, what is the need of a meter?

Jayapatākā: They're not making any claim for water. They say, "How much water you can use? It's a matter of a few paisa."

Prabhupāda: Last time the [indistinct] Goswami and Gurudāsa, the arrangement was to live without paying anything.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Right.

Prabhupāda: To pay the electric charge. So he was paying about sixty-four rupees' electric charges. They were using hugely.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Including water.

Prabhupāda: No, no. Electric.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Ācchā.

Jayapatākā: Per year.

Prabhupāda: Per month.

Jayapatākā: Sixty-four rupees!

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Sixty-four rupees a month!

Indian man (1): [Hindi]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi]

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: So now we have a separate meter for electricity. There's already a separate meter for electricity, is it?

Indian man (3): Yes, you have got your own.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Besides Madana Mohana, there's another one.

Indian man (3): He has. That's all right. Why it is not working?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Because there was a wire that was not connected. Then the man came today, and he has connected, and he says, "Now you will have electricity."

Prabhupāda: [Hindi] [Hindi conversation]

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: So then we said, "All right, we also need water." He said, "For that, you will need a separate meter because they, Madana Mohana Goswami, does not want to pay your water costs." Then the man said, "Yes, we can put separate meter. It will take ten days to two weeks."

Indian man (3): Oh, yes, you will do it.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: But it will take some time, they say.

Prabhupāda: So better to arrange.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Better to avoid?

Prabhupāda: No, no. Tap...

Indian man (3): For the time being you have water from Kalachand. Give the man his time. He will give.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: He will give.

Indian man (3): He will give you, and he'll ask Gurudāsa[?] also. Then he will do all, what is needful. Kalachand is a man of...

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Where you are getting your drinking water from?

Indian man (3): I? From my own pipe.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: From pipe. Pipe water is good for drinking.

Indian man (3): Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Ācchā. Not from well.

Indian man (3): No, no.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Well water is not good for drinking?

Indian man (3): At Lotan Kunj, just a hundred yards from our temple, that well is very nice well.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: What is the name?

Indian man (3): Lotan Kunj.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Lotan Kunj.

Indian man (3): First-class water.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Any time.

Indian man (3): Yes, oh, yes. People take from that well water to their houses.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Anyone can come? Anyone can take, public?

Indian man (2): Yes, yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Lotan Kunj.

Indian man (3): It is just near our temple. We use the Damodar Gela[?]. Damodar Gela is there. We use that water. Our, these boys and these, they drink it.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: And for washing and cooking we can get some water from Kalachand.

Indian man (3): Oh, yes. Kalachand has well also.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: And well also. Ācchā. Then there's no problem, Prabhupāda. We'll apply for our separate meter, and in the meantime, we'll take the water...

Indian man (3): Oh, yes. For the time being you will be...

Indian man (1): [Hindi]

Indian man (3): [Hindi] For the time being he will be helpful to give you water, but that's all. [Hindi]

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: That's good. Prabhupāda, can I bring up the point that these rooms should be... [Hindi conversation between guests]

Indian man (3): On 28th May, he is expected to attend the civil judge, Mathura, you see. So on that day, if he comes here, have a discussion from him.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Madana Mohana Goswami?

Indian man (3): Yes. What he says?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: There actually, there's no... What about latrine?

Indian man (3): Latrine is behind there. You put on side, Swāmījī's latrine.

Indian man (2): [Hindi]

Indian man (3): That was closed by Madana Mohana Goswami.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: He closed off that latrine.

Prabhupāda: That is back side.

Indian man (3): [Hindi conversation between guests about tape recorder] I don't want to talk with the tape recorder. I come to honor my Swāmījī and my elder brother...

Prabhupāda: That's all right.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: We tape everything Prabhupāda says. Everything he says, we tape, whether you're here or not here.

Indian man (3): No, I don't want to talk on the machine. I don't want you to make.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: We're not taping for any other purpose, but our Guru Mahārāja's words are very sacred to us, so we tape all the time, whether you're here or not here.

Prabhupāda: No, he has objection to the tape...

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: I'm just explaining that it's not any, er,... [break] [end]