Śāstrīya Śraddhā
Śrīla Prabhupāda
BooksLecturesLettersBack to GodheadDiariesPhotos
BooksLecturesAudioSearchAbout
More
PhotosBhajansPersons
Śrīla Prabhupāda
Śrīla PrabhupādaBooksLecturesLettersBack to GodheadDiariesPhotos
BooksLecturesAudioSearchAbout
More
PhotosBhajansPersons
Lectures1976.03.16Māyāpur55:48
Lecture

Sannyāsa and Harināma Initiations

Prabhupāda: The mantra,

namaḥ apavitraḥ pavitro vā sarvāvasthāṁ gato 'pi vā yaḥ smaret puṅḍarīkākṣaṁ sa bahyābhyantaraḥ śuciḥ [Garuḍa Purāṅa]

So this purificatory process... According to Vedic system, there is purificatory process. Janmanā jāyate śūdraḥ: "By birth everyone is born a śūdra." A śūdra means without any knowledge and simply full of lamentation. Śocati. So the Vedic process is that from the low-grade position, to bring the human society to the highest, topmost position. Generally it is... The first, topmost position is to become a brāhmaṅa in the society. Cātur-varṅyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṅa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ [Bg 4.13].

[According to the three modes of material nature and the work ascribed to them, the four divisions of human society were created by Me. And, although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the non-doer, being unchangeable.]

Four divisions of the social system are there, according to quality and work. That is very natural in this world. Everyone is accepted on quality and work. If you have got a qualification of a good lawyer and if you have done very nicely your activities, then you are selected as the high-court judge. The high-court judge is selected amongst the lawyers in the court. It is not appointed from outside. The... A lawyer who has done his legal profession very nicely, the government offers him the post, that "You become a high-court judge."

So this quality and work is estimated everywhere and in all circumstances. So Bhagavad-gītā recommends—Kṛṣṅa says personally, the Supreme Personality of Godhead—cātur-varṅyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṅa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ [Bg 4.13].

[According to the three modes of material nature and the work ascribed to them, the four divisions of human society were created by Me. And, although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the non-doer, being unchangeable.]

So that process is applicable at all times. And Nārada Muni, he also gave description to Yudhiṣṭhira Mahārāja while they were talking about the varṅāśrama. So Nārada Muni gave different symptoms of different varṅa: brāhmaṅa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. Then, at the conclusion, he said,

yasya hi yal lakṣaṅaṁ proktaṁ varṅābhivyañjakam yady anyatrāpi dṛśyeta tat tenaiva vinirdiśet [SB 7.11.35]

[If one shows the symptoms of being a brāhmaṅa, kṣatriya, vaiśya or śūdra, as described above, even if he has appeared in a different class, he should be accepted according to those symptoms of classification.]

He said that "I have already explained the different symptoms of different varṅas—brāhmaṅa will be like that; kṣatriya will be like that; vaiśyas will be like that; śūdras will be like that—so," he says, "if these symptoms are found," anyatra... Suppose one is not born in the brāhmaṅa family—he might have taken birth in a lower family—but he has acquired... If he has acquired the qualities of a brāhmaṅa, he should be accepted as brāhmaṅa. This is the process. Or if one is born in a brāhmaṅa family but he has not attained the qualities, neither he is working as a brāhmaṅa, then he should be accepted either kṣatriya, vaiśya and śūdra.

So this is the system. So Caitanya Mahāprabhu also wanted to introduce this system.

kibā śūdra kibā vipra nyāsī kene naya yei kṛṣṅa-tattva-vettā sei guru haya [Cc Madhya 8.128]

[Whether one is a brāhmaṅa, a sannyāsī or a śūdra—regardless of what he is—he can become a spiritual master if he knows the science of Kṛṣṅa.]

He never accepted this, that by birth. No. Either he is a brāhmaṅa or he is a śūdra, by caste or by birth, kibā vipra kibā śūdra nyāsī kene naya; either he's a gṛhastha or a sannyāsī, it doesn't matter. He can become a guru. How? Yei kṛṣṅa-tattva-vettā. One who knows the principles of Kṛṣṅa consciousness, one who understands Kṛṣṅa, he can become a guru. So guru is the post given to the sannyāsīs, to the brāhmaṅas. Without becoming a brāhmaṅa, nobody can become a sannyāsī, and sannyāsī is supposed to be the guru of both all the āśramas and all the varṅas.

So the preaching work... We require so many sannyāsīs. People are suffering all over the world for want of Kṛṣṅa consciousness. My Guru Mahārāja used to say that there is no scarcity; this is false propaganda. The only scarcity is that there is no Kṛṣṅa consciousness. That is the difficulty. Actually that is the fact. Take some practical example: I have traveled all over the world many times. I have seen America from village to village, Africa, Australia. There is so much land vacant that if we properly utilize them, we can produce so much food grains that we can feed ten times as many population as it is now. That's a fact. We do not utilize the land properly. And Kṛṣṅa has given us the formula, annād bhavanti bhūtāni [Bg 3.14:

[All living bodies subsist on food grains, which are produced from rain. Rains are produced by performance of yajña [sacrifice], and yajña is born of prescribed duties.]

"You produce anna." Annād bhavanti bhūtāni. Then the animals and the human being will be well fed and they will be happy. If anyone, either animal or man, has his belly filled up with sufficient food, he'll never be dissatisfied. That is the nature. So unfortunately we are not following the instruction of Bhagavad-gītā. If we follow the whole social system, political system, economic system of the whole world will be very, very nice, and everyone will live very peacefully and there will be no fight, no "ism," no schism. Everything will be all right. That is the purpose of Kṛṣṅa consciousness. Don't think that Kṛṣṅa consciousness is a matter of sentiment. No, it is practical.

The... Just like in America, they produce huge amount of grains. Sometimes they throw it in the sea on account of overproduction. Why overproduction should be given on the sea? It should be utilized. There are so many people starving. But this political situation is there that everyone is thinking, "This is my country. This is my home. This is my land." This is called māyā. Ahaṁ mameti [SB 5.5.8]. Janasya moho 'yam ahaṁ mameti. Everyone is under this impression, "I am this body, and anything belonging to this body, that is mine," or "my nation." This conception should be given up. That is Kṛṣṅa consciousness. Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam [Īśo mantra 1].

[Everything animate or inanimate that is within the universe is controlled and owned by the Lord. One should therefore accept only those things necessary for himself, which are set aside as his quota, and one should not accept other things, knowing well to whom they belong.]

Everything belongs to the Supreme Lord. In the Bhagavad-gītā also, the same thing is confirmed:

bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram suhṛdaṁ sarva-bhūtānāṁ jñātvā māṁ śāntim ṛcchati [Bg 5.29]

[The sages, knowing Me as the ultimate purpose of all sacrifices and austerities, the Supreme Lord of all planets and demigods and the benefactor and well-wisher of all living entities, attain peace from the pangs of material miseries.]

The śānti... Everyone is trying to have peace—peace of the mind, peace of the society, peace of the nation. Very good. But you do not know how to get this peace. That is described in every Vedic literatures.

Therefore Vedic knowledge is so important. Nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām [Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13].

[The Supreme Lord is eternal and the living beings are eternal. The Supreme Lord is cognizant and the living beings are cognizant. The difference is that the Supreme Lord is supplying all the necessities of life for the many other living entities.]

The Supreme Lord is the leader. He's also a living being like us. He's not a dead stone. He is... Just like Kṛṣṅa, when He comes, He lives like us, just like human being. So similarly the... Not similarly. Kṛṣṅa is a living being like us. He has got also two hands, two legs, one head, as you have got. But what is the difference between you and Him? The difference is that eka, that singular number living being. Vidadhāti kāmān bahūnām, He maintains everyone, and we are maintained. That is the difference. We plural number living entities, we are maintained, and He, the Supreme Lord, being, Supreme Being... In the dictionary, English dictionary, God means Supreme Being. So Supreme Being, He's also living being. He's not a dead stone. The difference is that He is the maintainer, and we are maintained. He is the ruler; we are ruled. This difference we have to understand. And He is the proprietor; we are servants. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's philosophy is this. That is a fact. Jīvera svarūpa haya nitya kṛṣṅa dāsa [Cc Madhya 20.108].

[It is the living entity’s constitutional position to be an eternal servant of Kṛṣṅa because he is the marginal energy of Kṛṣṅa and a manifestation simultaneously one with and different from the Lord, like a molecular particle of sunshine or fire. Kṛṣṅa has three varieties of energy.]

So this consciousness, Kṛṣṅa consciousness, is being spread all over the world for the peace of the world, for the peace of the mind, for the peace of the society. So take it very seriously. It is very authorized. It is not a concocted speculation; it is fact. And it is happening so. Now these American boys and girls who have come, spending thousands of rupees here... And they have no such distinction that "Here is Indian. He is African. He is brāhmaṅa. He's kṣatriya." Why? Because they have taken to Kṛṣṅa consciousness. So this movement is so important that everyone from every part of the world, they should take part in this movement, and there will be peace in the world. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission is this. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's birthday is today. In this land, in this very spot we are sitting now, He appeared for this mission. And He said that,

bhārata-bhūmite manuṣya-janma haile yāra janma sārthaka kari' kara para-upakāra [Cc Ādi 9.41]

[One who has taken his birth as a human being in the land of India [Bhārata-varṣa] should make his life successful and work for the benefit of all other people.]

This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission.

pṛthivīte āche yata nagarādi grāma sarvatra pracāra haibe mora nāma [CB Antya-khaṅḍa 4.126]

[In every town and village of the world, the chanting of My name will be heard.]

And that is being done. And the people from all parts of the world, they are responding. There is very, very good scope for spreading this Kṛṣṅa consciousness movement, and learned circle, important men in all parts of the society and world, they are appreciating this mission. Bhārata-bhūmite manuṣya... It was Caitanya Mahāprabhu's desire that especially those who are born in India, and especially in Bengal, because Caitanya Mahāprabhu appeared in this land of Bengal. So it is the duty to spread this Kṛṣṅa consciousness movement. But unfortunately they are not coming forward. Anyway, it doesn't matter whether he is Bengali or Hindu or Muslim. Anyone who knows the science of Kṛṣṅa, he can spread this Kṛṣṅa consciousness movement. And there is great necessity, great necessity. And the preaching work is meant for the sannyāsīs.

So we have got some sannyāsīs who are doing very nicely, so today we shall make a number of sannyāsīs more to spread Kṛṣṅa consciousness all over the world. And those who are going to take sannyāsa, they should remember how much responsibility they have got. So live like a very strict sannyāsī. Caitanya Mahāprabhu took Himself sannyāsa at the age of twenty-four years. So it is not that in old age one has to take sannyāsa. That is not in the śāstra. From brahmacārī āśrama one can enter into the gṛhastha-āśrama or vānaprastha-āśrama or sannyāsa-āśrama as he thinks fit. There is no such rules and regulation that only the old man without any energy, he'll take sannyāsa. No. Rather, the young men.

Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu did personally. He was twenty-four years old. He had beautiful wife, young wife, sixteen years old, at home; very, very affectionate mother; and His position was very great. Not as a brāhmaṅa, but still, as young man He could collect 100,000's of men by His order only, to make civil disobedience movement upon the Kazi in this land. So the civil disobedience movement was started by Caitanya Mahāprabhu for a good cause. So there are so many things. I especially appeal to the native of this land to take part in this movement of Caitanya Mahāprabhu for the benefit of the world. And we are trying to construct a very attractive temple here. Let them cooperate. It doesn't matter whether he is Hindu, Muslim. Caitanya Mahāprabhu is for everyone. Caitanya Mahāprabhu accepted Haridāsa Ṭhākura as His chief disciple. Haridāsa Ṭhākura was born in a Muhammadan family, and his mission was to introduce this Hare Kṛṣṅa mantra chanting. Harer nāma harer nāma harer nāma iva kevalam, kalau nāsty eva nāsty eva... [Cc Ādi 17.21]

[In this Age of Kali there is no other means, no other means, no other means for self-realization than chanting the holy name, chanting the holy name, chanting the holy name of Lord Hari.]

Devotees: ...nāsty eva gatir anyathā.

Prabhupāda: And He made Haridāsa Ṭhākura Namācārya, the ācārya to introduce Hare Kṛṣṅa mantra, and Haridāsa Ṭhākura was chanting three lakhs, counting daily. That means the whole day and night. So, so nice movement, everyone should take part in it and dedicate to the mission of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. And it is not at all difficult. It is very easy. Caitanya Mahāprabhu said,

āmāra ajñāya guru hañā tāra ei deśa yāre dekha tāre kaha 'kṛṣṅa'-upadeśa [Cc Madhya 7.128]

[Instruct everyone to follow the orders of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṅa as they are given in the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. In this way become a spiritual master and try to liberate everyone in this land.]

Anywhere, either you are in this district or that district, it doesn't matter. Either you are at home or outside home, it doesn't matter—you become a guru, everyone. "How shall I become guru? I have no qualification." Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "You don't require any qualification. You simply require one qualification: that you repeat the instruction of Bhagavad-gītā. That's all." Yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṅa-upadeśa [Cc Madhya 7.128]. That's all. You become a guru. Don't adulterate kṛṣṅa-upadeśa like a rascal or nonsense. Present it as it is, Bhagavad-gītā. Then you become a guru. You can become a guru in your family. You can guru your society, your nation, wherever you are. And if it is possible, you go outside and preach this mission of Bhagavad-gītā. Therefore our movement's name is Kṛṣṅa consciousness. Whatever Kṛṣṅa says, you accept and preach, you become guru.

Thank you very much.

Devotees: Jaya Prabhupāda. [break]

Prabhupāda: You know what are the regulative principles?

Devotee: No meat, fish or egg, no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. So what is his name?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Kṛṣṅadāsa Kavirāja.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. So your name is Kavirāja dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya! Hare Kṛṣṅa! [devotees offer obeisances]

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: [calls devotee] John Andrew. No, no—Peter, Peter. Peter West.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Guḍākeśa. Guḍākeśa.

Prabhupāda: You know what are the regulative principles?

Peter West: No meat-eating, no illicit sex, no gambling, no intoxication.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no intoxication, no gambling. Hmm. And how many times you'll chant?

Peter West: Sixteen rounds.

Prabhupāda: Minimum. Thank you. Guḍākeśa. Your name is Guḍākeśa dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Harvey. Haridāsa Ṭhākura dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: These boys are in Gargamuni's party.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. [indistinct] [devotees offer obeisances] Hmm. What are the regulative principles?

Harvey: No illicit sex life, no meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication.

Prabhupāda: What is his name?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Haridāsa Ṭhākura dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Haridāsa dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Ken. Śambhu.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. What are the rules?

Ken: No meat, fish or eggs, no gambling, no intoxication, no illicit sex.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. So your name is Śambhu dāsa. Śambhu was one of the sons of Kṛṣṅa.

Devotees: Haribol!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: John Andrew.

Śambhu: Śambhu?

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Śambhu

Hrdayananda: Pay obeisances. John Andrew...

Prabhupāda: That is wanted.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Gaurasundara.

John Andrew: [offers obeisances]

Prabhupāda: You know the rules and regulations?

John Andrew: No meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex, no gambling.

Prabhupāda: And what is “yes”?

John Andrew: Chant sixteen rounds.

Prabhupāda: At least.

John Andrew: At least.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Gaurasundara.

Prabhupāda: Oh, your name is very… Gaurasundara dāsa.

Devotees: Haribol! Haribol!

Subuddhi: [offers obeisances]

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Obeisances...

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: These are all Gargamuni’s men.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Where is Gargamuni? [laughter]

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: [indistinct] Subuddhi Rāya.

Prabhupāda: What are the rules and regulations?

Subuddhi: No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling and no intoxication.

Prabhupāda: So your name is Subuddhi dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Ian Butler.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Brian Butler.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Brian Butler.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Rāgānuga.

Brian Butler: [offers obeisances]

Prabhupāda: What are the rules?

Brian Butler: No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling and no intoxication.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Rāgānuga.

Hrdayananda: Rāgānuga.

Prabhupāda: Your name is Rāgānuga dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya!

Rāgānuga: Thank you very much.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Amulia Paul.

Devotee: Who?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Dharma-parāyaṅa.

Amulia Paul: [offers obeisances]

Prabhupāda: His name means is working nice. He is working nice? Hmm. [Hindi]

Amulia Paul: [Hindi] [short exchange in Hindi with Prabhupāda]

Prabhupāda: What is his name?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Dharma-parāyaṅa.

Prabhupāda: Your name, Dharma-parāyaṅa dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya! Haribol.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Motilal Pa.. Paluktur.

Prabhupāda: What is his name?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Kamala-nayāna.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Verse. [Prabhupāda briefly, softly hums] [short exchange in Hindi with Motilal] What is?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Kamala-nayāna.

Prabhupāda: Ah, Kamala-nayāna dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya!

Prabhupāda: Caitan...

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Vinay Chandra? Obeisances.

Devotees: Daṅḍavats. Daṅḍavats.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Vinay Chandra: [offers obeisances]

Prabhupāda: [indistinct]

Vinay Chandra: [offers obeisances]

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Name is Vijaya dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. [Hindi]

Vinay Chandra: Yes, no intoxication, no meat-eating, no gambling, no...

Prabhupāda: Hmm, all right. Vijaya dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Raj Kumar.

Prabhupāda: He's from Gujarat?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Hmm?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Kṛṣṅadāsa baidya.

Prabhupāda: Baidya?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Baidya.

Prabhupāda: [corrects pronunciation] Baidya.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Boidya.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. So, what are the rules and...? Eh?

Raj Kumar: [Bengali]

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Doesn't speak English.

Prabhupāda: Oh, he's Bengali.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: You have to speak Hindi.

Raj Kumar: U.P. Hindi.

Prabhupāda: Oh, Hindi. [short exchange in Hindi with Kṛṣṅadāsa Vaidya dāsa] So, Kṛṣṅadāsa Vaidya dāsa.

Devotee: Jaya.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Kṛṣṅadāsa Vaidya dāsa.

Devotee: Haribol.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Ian? Dhīrabhadra.

Prabhupāda: Vīrabhadrā?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Dhīrabhadra.

Prabhupāda: Oh, all right. What are the rules and regulations?

Ian: Ah, no meat-eating, no illicit sex life, no intoxication and no gambling.

Prabhupāda: So your name is Vīrabhadra dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Bhadra?

Prabhupāda: Vīrabhadra.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Vīrabhadra. Joe Davis.

Prabhupāda: He was the son of Nityānanda Prabhu.

Devotees: Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, he said that he will shave up, shortly.

Prabhupāda: All right. Gargamuni's family?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Ah, I think so. I'm not sure.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Dṛḍha-vrata, Dṛḍha-vrata.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. So you know the rules and regulations? So your name is Dṛḍha-vrata dāsa.

Devotee (3): Dhīra-vrata?

Devotee (4): Dṛḍha-vrata.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Dṛḍha-vrata.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Durata!

Prabhupāda: [briefly softly hums] What is his name then?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Vāṅīnātha.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. What is his language? Is he Indian?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: He is from Māyāpura. He stays here in Māyāpur.

Devotee (3): He's Bengali.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Bengali.

Prabhupāda: Ah. [Bengali conversation with boy] Hmm, what is his name?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Vāṅinātha.

Prabhupāda: Eh, Vāṅinātha dāsa [Bengali].

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Motilal.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Okay. What is his name?

Devotee (3): [devotees exclaiming in background] That's his great-grandpa.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Akiñcana Kṛṣṅa dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. You are now Akiñcana Kṛṣṅa dāsa. Now.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Akiñcana Kṛṣṅa dāsa.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali, asking boy to repeat] Akiñcana...

Akiñcana Kṛṣṅa: Akiñcana...

Prabhupāda: ...Kṛṣṅa dāsa.

Akiñcana Kṛṣṅa: ...Kṛṣṅa dāsa.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Ananta.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Daṅḍavats.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Daṅḍavats. Daṅḍavats. [background laughter] Ananta.

Prabhupāda: [Hindi conversation with initiate]

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Sarva-jña.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Sarvadya dāsa.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Sarvajña dāsa.

Devotee (4): Sarvajña.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: John Connelly, Donnelly.

John Donnelly: [offers obeisances]

Devotee (4): Haribol!

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Hmm. What are the rules and regulations?

John Donnelly: No meat-eating, no illicit sex, no gambling, no intoxication.

Prabhupāda: Thank you.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Sāttvika.

Prabhupāda: Sāttvika dāsa.

Sāttvika: Śakti?

Prabhupāda: Sāttvika.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Sāttvika.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Sāttvika.

Prabhupāda: “Goodness.”

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Dro Midha[?]. Jala-tala-devī dāsī

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Jala-tala-devī dāsī.

Prabhupāda: Jala-tala?... Ja... Jala-tala?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Jala-tala.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. So [Hindi].

Dro Midha: No illicit sex, no gambling, no meat-eating, no intoxication.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Jala-tala dāsī [Hindi]. Hmm.

Devotee: Jaya.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Rita? Rāsamaṅḍala-sevya.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: [background chatter with other devotees]

Prabhupāda: What is name?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Rāsamaṅḍala-sevi.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. You know the rules and regulations?

Rita: Only eating Kṛṣṅa prasādam, no illicit sex life, no intoxication and no gambling.

Prabhupāda: And your son?

Rita: [indistinct]

Prabhupāda: See, he is very fond of prasādam. [laughter]

Prabhupāda: You want prasāda? Take him. Rāsamaṅḍalī dāsī.

Devotees: Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Alurani? [background murmuring]

Prabhupāda: [coughs] Hmm, is there water?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Water. Alu... Alurani?

Prabhupāda: [coughs] Hmm, name?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Kulīna.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Kulīna dāsī [Hindi]

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Little Kṛṣṅa Rani? Kṛṣṅa-candra-priya.

Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṅa-priya dāsī.

Devotees: Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Big Kṛṣṅa Rani? Kiśora-vallabha.

Prabhupāda: [Hindi]

Kṛṣṅa Rani: [Hindi]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi] Kiśora-vallabha dāsī.

Devotee: Jaya!

Devotee (4): Kiśora-vallabha.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Manjurani? This is the last one, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Rāseśvarī.

Prabhupāda: Rāseśvarī dāsī. Come on now. Hmm. Then?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Sannyāsīs.

Prabhupāda: Sannyāsīs, that's all. Where is the daṅḍa?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Where is the daṅḍa for the...

Prabhupāda: So somebody explain. You can chant the mantra conjointly. Etām sa āsthāya...

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Etām… You want me to chant, Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: And they should repeat it?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Yes, they should repeat.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: [chants mantra, with devotees repeating each word]

etāṁ sa āsthāya parātma-niṣṭhām adhyāsitāṁ pūrvatamair maharṣibhiḥ ahaṁ tariṣyāmi duranta-pāraṁ tamo mukundāṅghri-niṣevayaiva [SB 11.23.57]

Prabhupāda: You can explain? Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: This...

Prabhupāda: No, stand up and explain.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: This... This mantra was chanted by brāhmaṅas from Avantīpura. And Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, after taking sannyāsa, He also chanted this mantra. The meaning of the mantra is that “I shall cross over the ocean of material nescience by following in the footsteps of the previous ācāryas and take shelter at the lotus feet of Mukunda, the giver of liberation.” Do you want me to explain it, or is that…?

Prabhupāda: [coughs] Yes, explain.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: So this material world is very dangerous.

Prabhupāda: You can hear?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: At every single point one can become entangled and remain embedded in material life. In fact it is to be understood that we have been in this material world for millions and millions of lifetimes. By nature, we are pure. We are eternal servants of Kṛṣṅa, but due to the minuteness of the soul sometimes we have misused our small degree of independence, and so we have been forced to fall down into this material world. Having fallen into this material world we are encountering so many different kinds of sufferings and miseries. Our nature is to be eternal, full of bliss and full of knowledge. But instead we find ourselves having to change body lifetime after lifetime, full of ignorance and full of suffering.

So to get free from this repeated cycle of birth and death is actually the purpose of human life. The animals, the plants, the trees, the aquatics, all other kinds of living entities, they do not have the ability to break free from this repeated cycle of birth and death. But in the human form of life the chance is given that one can once again reawaken his dormant love for Kṛṣṅa. This love for Kṛṣṅa, when it is a awakened, enables one to cross over this ocean of material nescience. What is the process? The process is to follow in the footsteps of the previous great ācāryas. It is described that by the mercy of the ācāryas this vast ocean of material suffering is reduced simply to the amount of water that is contained within the hoofprint of a calf. So it is by the mercy of guru and by the mercy of all the ācāryas that one is actually able to break free from this miserable cycle of suffering.

Prabhupāda: ...names of Rāmānuja, Madhvācārya, all the big sannyāsīs...

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Yes.

Prabhupāda: ...and last, Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Yes. This order of sannyāsa is not simply a modern-day creation. It is understood from the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam that sannyāsa has been existing…, tridaṅḍi sannyāsa has been existing for a very long time. And recently, in the previous thousand years, the great ācāryas, all the great ācāryas of the Vaiṣṅava sampradāya, they all took the sannyāsa order of life. Śrī Madhvācārya, Rāmānujācārya and Nimbārka Svāmī, Viṣṅu Svāmī, and also even in the, ah, in the Māyāvādī sampradāya the sannyāsa order is also there, but it is different…, it is ekadaṅḍi sannyāsa. But Śaṅkarācārya of course also took sannyāsa at a very young age. But this sannyāsa order recently was taken by Caitanya Mahāprabhu in our sampradāya.

So it is the bona fide process for breaking free from all kinds of material attachments. When one has firmly resolved that his only business shall be to take the order of the guru as his life and soul and to give up all kinds of considerations for bodily comforts, and for any kind of material arrangement, then it is allowed that a person may take sannyāsa. The sannyāsī has to be very strict in following the principles of strict avoidance of any kind of entanglement with women. This entanglement with woman is described by Śrīdhara Svāmī to come in eight different varieties, beginning simply with remembering, then going on to speaking about any kind of relationship, and seeing a woman with lustful eyes, and meeting in a secluded place, and discussing and making arrangement for a relationship, and making firm resolution, and eventually having some kind of relationship of sex life. The sannyāsī must be very strict to avoid any kind of association of this nature, because such association can very quickly cause falldown.

So it is a very strict order, but the sannyāsī is empowered by all the previous ācāryas that by their mercy he will be able to go throughout the world and deliver all of the fallen souls. So it is by the mercy of ācārya that one crosses over the difficult ocean of material life and finally comes to the platform of taking shelter at the lotus feet of Lord Mukunda, the giver of liberation.

Prabhupāda: [indistinct] So daṅḍas, you can take them one after another.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: First is Haṁsadūta.

Prabhupāda: Haṁsadūta

Devotees: Jaya! Haribol!

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: What is his name, Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Well, Haṁsadūta Swami.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Rāmeśvara?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Haṁsadūta Swami.

Devotees: Jaya! Jaya! Haribol!

Prabhupāda: [laughs] That is nice. Very good.

Devotees: Haribol! Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Next is Ādi-keśava.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Prabhupāda, if you can give him the name of some Swami or Goswami?

Prabhupāda: Swami.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: These are all svāmīs.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Daṅḍavats.

Prabhupāda: This is sāṣṭāṅga daṅḍavats, and which means pañcama, sāṣṭāṅga. Both of them are. Hmm.

Devotees: Haribol! Jaya!

Prabhupāda: Go and preach all over the world.

Devotees: Haribol! Jaya!

Prabhupāda: We are sending our mission to China and Russia immediately.

Devotees: Haribol!

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Pay daṅḍavats.

Devotee: Daṅḍavats, daṅḍavats.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: ...South American…

Prabhupāda: Ah, that is nice.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: He's nice devotee.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Good, strong.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: [indistinct]

Prabhupāda: Take. Preach.

Devotees: Haribol!

Prabhupāda: Hmm. He is Chinese mission. Is Chinese mission ready?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Come on.

Devotees: Haribol!

Prabhupāda: What is your name?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Dhṛṣṭadyumna.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Dhṛṣṭadyumna.

Prabhupāda: So our new Swāmījī, Dhṛṣṭadyumna Swami, is going to China to preach Kṛṣṅa consciousness.

Devotees: Haribol! Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Śatadhanya.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Devotees: Haribol! Jaya!

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: This is Jagat-guru.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Africa.

Prabhupāda: South Africa? No?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: Yes, he was with me in South Africa, and Nairobi.

Prabhupāda: Our Jagat-guru Swami is going to South Africa to preach Kṛṣṅa consciousness.

Devotees: Haribol!

Prabhupāda: That's all? Hmm.

Devotee: Jaya Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Perform begin, I can sit down, there is no other...

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: No others.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṅa: [announces:] The brāhmaṅa initiates can see Śrīla Prabhupāda later this afternoon. Personally.

Devotees: [background chatter] The same name.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: …do you recommend anyone... [break] [end]

PreviousRoom Conversation With Rādhā-Dāmodara Saṅkīrtana Party1976-03-16 · MayapurNextŚrī Gaura-Pūrṅimā Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 7.9.381976-03-16 · Māyāpur

Referenced verses

[Cc Madhya 7.128][Cc Madhya 8.128][Cc Ādi 9.41][SB 7.11.35][Bg 5.29][SB 11.23.57][Bg 4.13][SB 5.5.8][Cc Madhya 20.108][Cc Ādi 17.21][Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13][Cc Madhya 20.108][Cc Ādi 9.41][CB Antya-khaṅḍa 4.126][Cc Ādi 17.21]
Photos from those days in Māyāpur441
CT56-140CT56-1401976 · Mayapur · Murali VadanaCT82-040CT82-0401976 · MayapurCT82-041CT82-0411976 · MayapurCT82-042CT82-0421976 · MayapurCT82-043CT82-0431976 · MayapurCT82-044CT82-0441976 · MayapurCT82-045CT82-0451976 · MayapurCT82-046CT82-0461976 · MayapurCT82-047CT82-0471976 · MayapurCT82-048CT82-0481976 · Mayapur
CT82-049
CT82-0491976 · Mayapur
CT82-050CT82-0501976 · Mayapur
CT82-051CT82-0511976 · Mayapur
CT82-052CT82-0521976 · Mayapur · Yogesvara das
CT82-053CT82-0531976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-054CT82-0541976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-055CT82-0551976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-056CT82-0561976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-057CT82-0571976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-058CT82-0581976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-059CT82-0591976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-060CT82-0601976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-061CT82-0611976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
CT82-062CT82-0621976 · Mayapur · Murali Vadana
Open all 441 photos in the gallery