Morning Walk

Prabhupāda: ...cetasā nānya-gāminā. One has to practice. [break] It will take some time.

[break] ...yuktena cetasā nānya-gāminā. One has to practice. That means his determination is not yet fixed up. Because he is very rich, he is thinking that "This is all right." That is another defect of becoming very much rich. Bhogaiśvarya prasaktānāṁ tayā upahṛta-cetasām [Bg 2.44]:

[In the minds of those who are too attached to sense enjoyment and material opulence, and who are bewildered by such things, the resolute determination of devotional service to the Supreme Lord does not take place.]

"Those who are too much attached to this material enjoyment and..., by which his consciousness is bewildered..." All these defects are there because he is too much attached to material enjoyment.

[break] Why don't you give him dress if he has no dress? This is not good. You have not marked it?

Girirāja: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Then what is this? He's... Give him dress.

Girirāja: [indistinct aside] [break]

Prabhupāda: Give him lesson how to make tilaka. He has come to your shelter. You teach him. [break] Just like a diseased person, if he is a little careless, he is not very strict in following the..., it will take some time. It is exactly like that. He, because of his material opulences, he thinks that "Oh, where is the disease? This is all right. I am happy." That is the defect. We have to reduce. That is called tapasya. Not that "Because my tongue is asking me to eat something, therefore I must eat." Not that. That is the difference between ordinary man and gosvāmī. Gosvāmī means one who has conquered over the dictation of the senses. My sense dictates to do something, but when I am able to dictate the sense, "No, you cannot do it," that is called gosvāmī.

[aside:] Hare Kṛṣṅa. [break]

Dr. Patel: ...maybe an African or Indian?

Prabhupāda: No, Indian.

Dr. Patel: African, after all. Americans must be first. [wind interference—indistinct] ...some politically conscious Africans.

Prabhupāda: We have got about ten African devotees now in our Nairobi branch.

[break] ...attached to material sense enjoyment. Such person cannot take to Kṛṣṅa consciousness.

[break] ...avoid the dictation of the senses. But when a man is able to dictate the senses, then he is gosvāmī.

Dr. Patel: That is...?

Prabhupāda: Gosvāmī.

Dr. Patel: "One who is lord of go, senses."

Prabhupāda: Yes, senses. In that stage he cannot give up. Paraṁ dṛṣṭvā nivartante. When one sees that "This is better quality than the other," then he takes. Unless... Because superficially... Suppose for becoming Vaiṣṅava he has to undergo so many austerities. So ordinary man cannot find out that this is better life than that. So when he understands, "This service is not good. To serve Kṛṣṅa is good," then he can give up the service of māyā. Paraṁ dṛṣṭvā nivartate [Bg 2.59].

[The embodied soul may be restricted from sense enjoyment, though the taste for sense objects remains. But, ceasing such engagements by experiencing a higher taste, he is fixed in consciousness.]

Just like an ordinary servant, he is serving in your house, but if he gets some more salary in other's house, he gives it up. That is required. Paraṁ dṛṣṭvā nivartate.

Girirāja: [reading from Kṛṣṅa book] "This māyā, or illusory struggle for existence, is immediately stopped. Lord Brahmā, who has full control over the goddess of learning and who is considered to be the best authority in Vedic knowledge, was thus perplexed, being unable to understand the extraordinary power manifested in the Supreme Personality of Godhead." [break]

Prabhupāda: ...muhyanti yat sūrayaḥ. Tene brahma hṛdā ādi-kavaye muhyanti yat sūrayaḥ [SB 1.1.1]. [break] ...said that unless one comes to understand the inconceivable power of God, there is no meaning of God.

Dr. Patel: It is impossible to conceive God.

Prabhupāda: No, no, inconceivable power of God. God is in your presence.

Dr. Patel: No, no, but His personal power is inconceivable. Nobody understands His power. Power is... [break]

Prabhupāda: ...understand the inconceivable power of God. [break] First of all he has to come to the sattva-guṅa. Sthitaḥ sattve prasīdati.

tato rājas-tamo-bhāvāḥ kāma-lobhādayaś ca ye ceta etair anāvidhaṁ sthitaḥ sattve prasīdati [SB 1.2.19]

[As soon as irrevocable loving service is established in the heart, the effects of nature's modes of passion and ignorance, such as lust, desire and hankering, disappear from the heart. Then the devotee is established in goodness, and he becomes completely happy.]

When one becomes free from the rajo-guṅa and tamo-guṅa, the symptom is... Rajo-guṅa and tamo-guṅa means lust and greediness. So when this rajo-guṅa and tamo-guṅa is absent, then the sattva-guṅa becomes prominent. Every guṅa is there. Tato rajas-tamo-bhavaḥ kama-lobhadayas ca ye, ceta etair... The consciousness does not become infected by the resultant action of tamo-guṅa and rajo-guṅa. Then the only sattva-guṅa remains. So when one is situated in sattva-guṅa, sthitaḥ sattve prasīdati, then he becomes jubilant, prasīdati. That is brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā [Bg 18.54].

[And of all yogīs, he who always abides in Me with great faith, worshiping Me in transcendental loving service, is most intimately united with Me in yoga and is the highest of all.]

So one has to overcome the jurisdiction of rajo-guṅa and tamo-guṅa. At the present moment the whole world is covered mostly by tamo-guṅa and little by rajo-guṅa.

Dr. Patel: Americans have more by rajo-guṅa. They are creating and creating and creating.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Dr. Patel: We are by more tamas. They are indolent, don't want to work. [break]

Prabhupāda: Everyone makes this mistake [indistinct]. So as he is accepting, as Arjuna accepted, this is paramparā acceptance. [break]

Girirāja: " '...the material luminaries, Your transcendental effulgence is identical with brahma-jyoti.' " [break]

Prabhupāda: ...advised, and all the ācāryas advised, Caitanya Mahāprabhu's advised. Why should we go somewhere else? Take shelter of His lotus feet. That's all. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam [Bg 18.66].

[Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction. Do not fear.]

This is right conclusion. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate [Bg 7.19].

[After many births and deaths, he who is actually in knowledge surrenders unto Me, knowing Me to be the cause of all causes and all that is. Such a great soul is very rare.]

[break] ...mahātmā, immediately by surrendering to Kṛṣṅa. Immediately.

[break] A child, if he is informed, "God is everywhere," he will never understand what is God. He knows that God is there, that this God consciousness is there. So what is the use of educating him, "Oh, God is everywhere. You don't require to go to temple"? This is nonsense. It is kaniṣṭha-adhikārī. He must know, "Here is God." He goes there, offer respect. All the children come.

[break] ...a man, military man like Arjuna.

Dr. Patel: Yes. Can he be a general?

Prabhupāda: Mr. Sar.

Mr. Sar: Arjuna, yes.

Dr. Patel: Arjuna was a very, very great general, the most ideal general of representing the real culture of this country.

Prabhupāda: That is wanted. It doesn't matter. Nanda Mahārāja, a vaiśya. Arjuna is a kṣatriya. And there are many śūdras also. So what is that goat-caṅḍāla. He was a caṅḍāla. But everyone has got the right to become a devotee. That is wanted.

[break] ...tanu-vāṅ-manobhiḥ [SB 10.14.3].

[Those who, even while remaining situated in their established social positions, throw away the process of speculative knowledge and with their body, words and mind offer all respects to descriptions of Your personality and activities, dedicating their lives to these narrations, which are vibrated by You personally and by Your pure devotees, certainly conquer Your Lordship, although You are otherwise unconquerable by anyone within the three worlds.]

Remain in your place, but giving aural reception to the Kṛṣṅa message, you become a devotee. That is our Kṛṣṅa consciousness movement. We don't ask anybody to change. We want to make him transcendental. Sa guṅān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate [Bg 14.26].

[One who engages in full devotional service, who does not fall down in any circumstance, at once transcends the modes of material nature and thus comes to the level of Brahman.]

[break] Brahma-stuta śruti-kārayan. Now, in the brahma-stuta, śruti-kārayan, brahma-stute, yaṁ brahma, beginning... So that is yaṁ brahma. Then simply if you recite, yaṁ brahma... You must know who is that yam. And that is being explained by Kṛṣṅa. Here is that yam: Kṛṣṅa.

Dr. Patel: Vasudeva, bolo.

Child: [chants verse in Sanskrit]

Prabhupāda: Devakī ānandam.

Dr. Patel: Kṛṣṅaṁ vande jagat guru.

Prabhupāda: Yaṁ brahma-varuṅendra-rudraḥ stunvanti divyaiḥ stavaiḥ [SB 12.13.1].

[Sūta Gosvāmī said: Unto that personality whom Brahmā, Varuṅa, Indra, Rudra and the Maruts praise by chanting transcendental hymns and reciting the Vedas with all their corollaries, pada-kramas and Upaniṣads, to whom the chanters of the Sāma Veda always sing, whom the perfected yogīs see within their minds after fixing themselves in trance and becoming fully absorbed in thoughts of Him, and whose limit can never be found by any demigod or demon—unto that Supreme Personality of Godhead I offer my humble obeisances.]

Sometimes the impersonalists argue, "If nobody has seen Him, then where is His form?" But here is. Brahmā, yaṁ brahma. Here is Brahmā is praying. So why you say nobody has seen? Brahmā has seen. Therefore he is offering.

Dr. Patel: Bolo asitagirā samaṁsyāt. He'll recite half a dozen.

Prabhupāda: That's right. Hare Kṛṣṅa.

Child: [chants more Sanskrit verses]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi]

Dr. Patel: [Hindi]

Child: [chants more verses]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi]

Dr. Patel: He wants to study Sanskrit from now, when I read all those books. But his father has put him directly in English medium. It becomes very difficult. I have to take him out and now he can read Sanskrit. You can read.

Prabhupāda: English medium, Sanskrit.

Dr. Patel: English medium, the intelligence gets baffled, because it is not a mother language.

Prabhupāda: Aurobindo Ghosh studied English from the very beginning.

Dr. Patel: But he was extremely clever. He studied then Gujarati, not even Bengali. After he came from England...

Prabhupāda: He came to Gujarati. No. He came to Baroda.

Dr. Patel: Then he studied Gujarati, but he did not know Bengali at all. And then he came... [break] [Sanskrit] What is that? [break]

Prabhupāda: ...yam brahma vajanita[?] From our childhood, if there was a rice grain on the floor, my father and my mother would ask me, "Take it and touch it on your head."

Dr. Patel: Yes. We were advised not to tread on the grains. [break]

Prabhupāda: Because by chance, if the grain is struck with the leg, she asked, "Take it and touch it on the head."

Dr. Patel: That is the culture. [indistinct] culture.

Prabhupāda: Means from the very beginning he understands anna-brahma.

Dr. Patel: Even it is not spoken, you practice it.

Prabhupāda: Yes, practice it. According to Vedic culture, the higher class, in every home there is nārāyaṅa-śilā for worship, especially of the brāhmaṅas.

Dr. Patel: In our homes we have all these small such temples, small chapels. All of us, our homes have got one room specially for Kṛṣṅa mūrti and [indistinct] For pūjā only. [break] We say ṭhākura-ghara.

Prabhupāda: Ṭhākura-ghara. That ṭhākura-ghara must be there, not only simply a lavatory. There must be one ṭhākura-ghara.

Dr. Patel: In all our homes. [end]